Supporting right-to-left content

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There is a problem with inputting hebrew text (right-to-left direction). While using system font I see the input, I can't select text. The alignment is wrong. The tab order is reversed. Is there a plan to support hebrew in a usable way? I would buy the product (desktop version), but I'm limited to graphics, which is too limiting.
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Giacomo 'Peldi' Guilizzoni, Official Rep

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Hi Felixg, thanks for your feedback. The new version of the Flash Player (and Adobe AIR), is supposed to be able to support right-to-left languages properly. I will look at taking advantage of it in a future release, but I do not have a timeline for it yet.
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I can't even *input* any text in Hebrew (for example into controls label and paragraph of text).
What am I doing wrong?
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Hello Pasha, you're not doing anything wrong. We just don't support RTL languages right now. Adobe just came out with this http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/te... which we'll take advantage of in the future, but it might take a while (probaby not until next year).
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Thanks for the quick reply!
I'll be keeping my fingers crossed :)
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Hi everybody,

There is a PARTIAL support of Hebrew, as a matter of fact. If you switch to "Use system fonts" (under "View" - I'm on ver 1.6.40), You can enter Hebrew text.

BUT - other than that, no RTL support which is a REAL drag!

@Peldi - Balsamiq looks like my dreams coming true - but untill RTL is supported I really can't work with it. Back to horrible PPT mock-ups, I'm afraid.... If you could allow basic HTML coding, us lot here can enter our own RTL tags for ya
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Hi Itay, Jan is not far away...hang in there! Allowing HTML is not really an option unfortunately...
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What's in January? Adobe's new feature launch, or your RTL support? if the latter, I'll wait patiently :-)
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Sorry, should have been more clear. We are going to switch to requiring Flash Player 10 in January. Player 10 has native support for RTL content, so we'll take advantage of it as soon as we can. More here: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/te...
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That's great. Do you tweet somewhere, so I could follow?
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Does this relate to next January?
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No, it was supposed to be last January... Is there still a problem with RTL? I almost gave up on them myself
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Elizabeth

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I am just thinking how is it possible to solve this issue without waiting endlessly to the Adobe upgrade and what comes to mind is a "Flash-like" text editor that has the standard abilities of editing RTL text but on the other hand provides some options to save the wording into tiny .png files with a transparent background to be embedded in the "grand scheme".

It is a little tedious but would bring in the RLT users. Most of us do know some elementary English :) but the need to show some buttons and flow functionality in native language is important in such a tool, especially when we need to display it to others...
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Sounds like a good idea, but I'm afraid Balsamiq won't share our viewpoint :-)

Anyway I'd really love to get Peldi's take on the subject!
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Hi all. Unfortunately RTL turned out to be MUCH harder than expected, after looking at it. I even had an Adobe engineer try to help me. Until we switch our component framework to the latest Flex 4 framework (which is a huge, super-risky change), we won't be able to take advantage of the new text rendering engine inside of flash. I wrote a little bit about this on our roadmap post here: http://balsamiq.com/blog/2010/06/02/r...

So sorry for not being able to maintain my promise on this one, I hope you'll understand. This is definitely on the radar, but it will take a while longer (not sure how long).
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11 months since the issue any updates boss :)
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Elizabeth

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Would love to hear about any progress too
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Hello Team,

any plans on when you will be supporting arabic (RTL/conjoined letters) script?

i have a new project for a client and would love to do it using Balsamiq.

many thanks
Ahmed

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
arabic ( RTL / conjoined letters ) script.
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Shalom and Sallam all,

I'm afraid I've given up hope on this issue. I'm currently using Axure for my mock-ups. Also no 100% RTL support, however, but it satisfies my needs better.
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Best of luck, Itay! Sorry we couldn't deliver RTL for you.
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hi
i would like to know if you have any progress in RTL support?
thanks
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Michael Angeles, Employee

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We're not actively working on this yet. Peldi's post above is still the issue: http://community.balsamiq.com/balsami...
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It is real pity that there in no Hebrew support. Looks like a nice product.
Dror
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Hi all, we FINALLY started adding RTL support, but we need your help! http://blogs.balsamiq.com/product/201... has more info.
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Elizabeth

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How wonderful. Would love to spread the news once it is done! :)
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+1

Supporting Hebrew will make this tool sooooo much more useful in Israel and the RTL world.